Adam and Eve and the Beginning

“If the Bible is true, certainly Adam was the first man; consequently, we know, if the sacred volume be true, just how long man has lived and labored and suffered on this earth.

The church cannot and dare not give up the account of the creation of Adam from the dust of the earth, and of Eve from the rib of the man. The church cannot give up the story of the Garden of Eden — the serpent — the fall and the expulsion; these must be defended because they are vital.

Without these absurdities, the system known as Christianity cannot exist. Without the fall, the atonement is a non sequitur. Facts bearing upon these questions were discovered and discussed by the greatest and most thoughtful of men. Lamarek, Humboldt, Haeckel, and above all, Darwin, not only asserted, but demonstrated, that man is not a special creation.

If anything can be established by observation, by reason, then the fact has been established that man is related to all life below him — that he has been slowly produced through countless years — that the story of Eden is a childish myth — that the fall of man is an infinite absurdity.”
The Divided Household of Faith, Robert G. Ingersoll, 1888

Now we know that Adam of the Bible was NOT the first man, or Eve of the Bible was NOT the first woman. We humans know this as well as we know that night follows day. The fact that humans have inhabited this earth for hundreds of thousands of years is established and undeniable by those people who live in the real world.

We know that Proto-humans, or Neanderthals, were walking the earth-long-before we Homo sapiens did. This fact alone disproves Biblical beginnings of man.

We know that the Chinese were predicting eclipses before Moses supposedly wrote Genesis and described creation wrong.

We know that Noah’s flood never happened. NO evidence at all for this story. This fact alone disproves Biblical beginnings.

We know for a fact, that all people living on earth today are NOT descended from the supposed eight survivors of Noah’s flood about 4300 years ago. DNA science has disproved this religious notion.

We know that the ‘Tower of Babel’, as described in the Bible, never happened. Languages were all over the world at the time of the OT Bible story, any many, many years before that.

We know that the Bible and Scripture have been manipulated throughout its history.

We know that prayer is never answered. It’s all statistical anomaly.

We know there are no hard proofs for the existence of any ‘God’ or ‘gods’…none.

There are no hard proofs for Jesus…as described in the Bible.

Religious organizations try their damnest to disprove these facts, but all their arguments inevitably fall back on the rejection of real evidence, and the use of magic.

Despite the total failure of the Hebrew religion to explain our natural world, which it should be able to do if it were the ‘Word of God’, millions of people leave their brains at the door and believe superstitious nonsense and somehow justify it to themselves.

Think of the whole sweep of the history of our earth and ALL of its people. Think of the millions and millions of people that were living everywhere on earth when the Old Testament history was supposedly written. That a real God would pick these non-descript desert dwellers, and embroil Himself in their day-to-day matters and tell them who to kill and steal land from…is ridiculous.

And that anyone would believe these Hebrews wrote down the word-for-word ranting of a God out to kill off Hebrew opponents, and make a religion out of it…is insane.

God is made in the image of man, not vice-versa.

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8 Responses to Adam and Eve and the Beginning

  1. zik says:

    i just wanna ask you people one question.was adan and eve on earth before or after early men.plz give a good reason to beleive you or all you r saying here doesnt make sense to me.

    • Adam says:

      Adam and Eve were sent to Earth/World etc… around 4,000-6,000 B.C according to the Bible by tracing the age of the sons of Adam.
      Let’s say 6,000 B.C. That is 8,000 years ago after adding the 2,000 A.D years. Also Adam lived 930 years, which will be 9,041 the date of his time on earth in the year 2011.

      However, Early Men or Cave Men could be another type of mammals, which doesn’t belong to Adam. Maybe they looked like us but they were not Adam’s race or (Adamians).

      For those who believe in Adam and Eve story, Adam when he was sent to this life he came after maybe another race who lived here on Earth. Also it doesn’t contradict the story in the Bible, because it’s true that Adam is our father (the father of our race) and the first man of his race!

      For those who don’t believe in the Biblical story, maybe the story is just a metaphor was given to us in order to understand and have a starting point of research! Such as the name of Adam originated from Hebrew for (dust) in Arabic (clay, soil or dust). Also Adam sounds like Atom means The Atom or the origin/beginning/genesis!

      In general, regardless if we believe the story or not, it’s not wrong to believe that there are some other type of human’s looker-like who lived here and maybe still live here among us. It’s a little hard to believe we only existed only 7,041 or 9,041 years ago.
      The first Sumerian city called Ubaid existed around 5,300 B.C, and many other civilizations are really more ancient to be only between 7,041 or 9,041 years old.

      I personally like the work of Zecharia Sitchin. You can find many of his videos free on YouTube.

      P.s. You can email me at, red-scorp1@hotmail.com

      Regards
      Adam

      • the word of me says:

        Hello Adam,

        Sorry to take so long to reply, I was very busy for awhile.

        Modern type humans (Homo-sapiens-sapiens) have existed on earth for about 200,000 years.
        The city of Jericho is at least 8,000 years old. The settlement/religious area of Gobekli Tepe was occupied/used about 11,000 years ago. There are many many old ruins around the world that speak of humans occupying the earth for a long time as hunter-gatherers before settling down in large cities.

        The Bible, or any people who tell you the earth and humanity is only 6 or 8 or 10 thousand years old are telling you lies…if one believes these lies in light of todays archaeological, geological, Biological, Geophysical, Paleontological, Biochemical, DNA and Genetics knowledge, they are arguably stupid.

  2. thewordofme says:

    Hi Zik, thanks for writing.

    Just one person here Zik.

    Well, the people that think the Bible has no errors in it say that Adam and Eve were created about 4,000 to 4,250 BC, depending on which Christian sect you believe in. So that’s roughly 6000+ years ago.

    There are about 6-10 caves in France (1) and Spain that have cave art that is dated to roughly 18,000 to 14,000 BC.

    There are bones of ancient humans (like us) and Neanderthals found in caves on Mount Carmel, in the Holy Land, that are dated to roughly 50,000 BC

    Several whole Woolly Mammoth skeletons have been found in Arizona that had many Clovis spear points in them. Woolly Mammoths died out about 10,000 BC. Other Clovis spear points are dated to about 13,000 and later.

    There are small ancient sculptures called Venus(2) or Earth Mother figurines that have been found in several parts of Northern Europe that are dated to 22,000 to 24,000 BC. Neanderthal skeletons have been found in many parts of Europe and Spain and the Middle East dating from about 250,000 to 28,000 BC.

    Spear points found in Southern France from a modern people (like us-not Neanderthals) called Solutreans, are dated to 30,000 to 20,000 BC.

    Two recent DNA/blood (3) studies recently completed have shown that ALL humans alive today are descended from African stock that began about 200,000 to 190,000 years ago. Scientists have found and identified and recorded tens of thousands of tools and artifacts from ancient times from all over the world.

    There are literally thousands or tens of thousands of very ancient archaeological sites all over the earth.
    With thorough searching of the web, they can all be found, as they mostly all have websites.

    Almost ALL scientific work is freely available and searchable on the net. All the scientific data for dating is also freely available. Anyone who tells you that modern dating methods are wrong is probably lying to you.

    1. Search: Cave art
    2. Search: Venus of Willendorf
    3. Search: Genome project, IBM, National Geographic

    The main thing that religion fears is knowledge. The knowledge of the world is now on the internet. The information for any thing you want to explore is freely available. Good luck.

  3. Dr. Ulriche says:

    Scientist turned Christian.

    Singularity occurred approximately 13.7 billion years ago. The universe is expanding so we know that it came from a single atom. What caused the big bang? That’s for you to decide. The earth’s formation took over 650 million years. That was 13 billion years ago. Dinosaurs, insects, animals evolving all the while. I believe some kind of ape evolved upright, but I also believe after millions and millions of years the creator of the big bang breathed life into his own creation. Which he created out of the dust of the earth 8,000 years ago. For anyone doubting God destroyed all living creatures through flooding, they found Noah’s ark in Turkey in 1948. Look it up for yourselves. It’s made of gopher wood and they found animal bones through core boring holes. The Turkish government, for reasons unknown, won’t allow the site to be explored more. Makes you wonder why?

    We humans over the course of a measly 8,000 years aren’t a flyspeck on an elephants butt, in the grand scheme of themes of the universe and yet we are. We are God’s creation. The creator of the universe. We spend all of our time questioning everything. Most scientists do. I know I did. However after all the data is compiled and reading is done, I’ve admitted that God’s plan came true. The word became flesh and arose on the third day.

    After all of the scientific and historical data is compiled, there is no doubt in my mind that a God exists and the Lord God Almighty who sent His son to die on a cross, as a perfect sacrifice to our sinful/lustful/angry/deceitful/impure/fleshly desires and ways. If only we would accept and receive His death on the cross as our forgiveness. Blind faith.

    Do yourselves a favor and save yourself about 32 years, put down the science and history books. You’ll only waste years of your life. To each his own though. I pray you will all come to the same conclusion that I’ve come to. By the grace of God go I.

    Blessings be on you.

  4. the word of me says:

    Hello Dr. Ulriche, Thank you for your thoughtful reply.

    You write:
    “Singularity occurred approximately 13.7 billion years ago. The universe is expanding so we know that it came from a single atom. What caused the big bang? That’s for you to decide. The earth’s formation took over 650 million years. That was 13 billion years ago. Dinosaurs, insects, animals evolving all the while. I believe some kind of ape evolved upright, but I also believe after millions and millions of years the creator of the big bang breathed life into his own creation. Which he created out of the dust of the earth 8,000 years ago.”

    Yes some kind of singularity did occur around 13.7 billion years ago. Then there’s all this quantum physics talk about multiple universes so I don’t know that the science has been worked out all the way yet. Time will tell I suppose.

    First off I believe the mainstream thought about the Earth’s formation is that it happened about 4.5 billion years ago, not 13 billion. Life is thought to have started on earth about a billion years after the earth formed. The first upright human form hominids are placed around 3-4 million years ago and the first modern Homo-sapiens around 200,000 to 190,000 years ago.

    We now know that some modern humans in parts of Europe and Asia have Neanderthal genes/blood in them. Some anthropologists believe that Homo-Heidelbergensis is also our ancestor. What ever way the blood line turns out, we know for a fact that modern humans have roamed the earth for 200,000 years…so God did not make “us” out of dust 8,000 years ago. That belief in making humans out of dust is really Bronze Age goat herder thinking.

    You write:
    “For anyone doubting God destroyed all living creatures through flooding, they found Noah’s ark in Turkey in 1948. Look it up for yourselves. It’s made of gopher wood and they found animal bones through core boring holes. The Turkish government, for reasons unknown, won’t allow the site to be explored more. Makes you wonder why?”

    The flood of Noah has been thoroughly disproven. Scientists (naturalists) of the 17th century were doubting the flood story and at that time they were all professed Christians. At any rate modern science has really proved the old story as mythical…plenty of information on the Internet about this subject. No, the mythical ark has never been found, all the people who have “found the Ark” in years past have been proven to be cons.

    You write:
    “After all of the scientific and historical data is compiled, there is no doubt in my mind that a God exists and the Lord God Almighty who sent His son to die on a cross, as a perfect sacrifice to our sinful/lustful/angry/deceitful/impure/fleshly desires and ways.”

    After all of the scientific and historical data is compiled, there is no doubt in my mind that a God does not exist. I have solid established researchable, repeatable facts and figures behind my belief…what do you have? And I mean that in a nice way, I’m not trying to be snarky.

    Regarding the so called Son of God, there are some facts that you may have failed to consider. Adam and Eve were not real. This of course has tremendous consequences for Christianity, for as we all know the need for Jesus was to atone for our sins. No Adam and Eve no “Original sin” (which Paul made up anyway) no sin…no need for Jesus. You may want to peruse the BioLogos web-site and their about page Here, and follow some of the conversions going on there.

    Some other Bible myths you may want to search and learn about the new science behind the old stories:
    There was no Adam and Eve.
    There was no Noachian flood.
    There was no Tower of Babel.
    There was no Exodus.
    Much is changing in Christianity today.

  5. 4.5 Billion year before Christ when the world was made and 100,000 years before Christ when Adam and Eve was put in to the Garden of Eden, 81,000 years Before Christ when Adam and Eve outcast to the Garden of Eden.77,000 years Before Christ when Adam and Eve sons and daughters was born. 28,000 years Before Christ when the sons of Adam and Eve Cain kill his brother Abel, 21,000 years Before Christ when Enoc was born, 17,000 years before Christ when Noah was born. 17,979 years Before Christ when the flood start to destroy Mankind, 15,000-11,000 years Before Christ when the three sons of Noah Shem Cam Japheth and there three wives was filled the Earth and Multiplied, 10,000 years Before Christ when the Tower of Babel was made and changed the language of Mankind.7,000 years Before Christ when people establish there own civilizations like Roman Egyptians Greek Babylonians and more. 2,000 years Before Christ when Abraham was could by God 2,579 years Before Christ when the Hebrews was free to the Egyptians empire 2,495 years before Christ when the Judge of Israel was came 2,275 years before Christ when samuel became a Prophet 2,197 years before Christ when Saul become the First King of Israel ,1000 years before Christ when David become the Second King of Israel 1,675 years before Christ when Solomon become Third king Of Israel and after that many Kings of Israel have come 497,years before Christ when the Roman Empire invade the Asia Europe and Africa,the Roman Empire ruled in 497 years Before Christ until 589 After Christ

  6. the word of me says:

    Hello Jessica, thanks for writing.

    You have the timeline really wrong…

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