End Times, Armageddon, Second Coming. etc.

Got to thinking about the ‘End Times’ today (this being Sunday and all) and was wandering how close we were to the fabled ‘Battle of Armageddon.’ all the Christians keep talking about and wishing for. Seems there are still a few items from Biblical prophecy that need to happen before the actual ‘End Times’ are upon us.

“Megiddo was a site of great importance in the ancient world, as it guarded the western branch of a narrow pass and an ancient trade route which connected the lands of Egypt and Assyria. Because of its strategic location at the crossroads of several major routes, Megiddo and its environs have witnessed several major battles throughout history. The site was inhabited from 7000 BC to 500 BC.” From Wikipedia, go: HERE

This little fact about Megiddo’s being occupied 3000 years ( Jericho is even older) before God supposedly created Adam & Eve, makes one wonder, and maybe think that the writers of the Bible were just making up stuff.

“After the destruction of the Beast at the Second Coming of Jesus, the promised Kingdom is set up, in which Jesus and the Saints will rule for a thousand years. Satan is then loosed **”for a season” and goes out to deceive the nations, specifically, Gog and Magog. The army mentioned attacks the Saints in the New Jerusalem, they are defeated by a judgment of fire coming down from Heaven, and then comes the Great White Throne judgment, which includes all of those through the ages and these are cast into the Lake of Fire, which event is also known as the “second death” or Hell.” See Wikipedia HERE

Premillennialism is a doctrine very popular among Evangelical Fundamentalist Protestants in North America. Other premillennial groups include Jehovah’s Witnesses, and Seventh Day Adventists. Premillennialists believe the Second Coming of Christ will be the start of the ‘Millennium’ (the 1000 year period when Jesus (God for you Trinitarians) rules the world). Before this period will come a time of destruction, war and disaster on earth, called the ‘Tribulation’, which will be ended by God defeating evil (Those pesky Russkies maybe, or politicians?) at the battle of Armageddon.

During the ‘Tribulation’ the Antichrist (Satan’s emissary…probably a politician) will torture humanity, and God will go to war against him. The tribulation will end in seven years when God defeats the Antichrist and we will enter the ‘Millennium. One thing to wonder about…why would a omnipotent God take seven years to defeat evil? Another thing that is troubling to me is that some Christians think they will be caught up in a ‘Rapture’ and miss all the Tribulation. Just like the Trinity, the Rapture doesn’t seem to be mentioned in the Bible…and some Christians build a whole church/sect on these things.

Hard core Premillennialists also don’t see much point in Christians trying to improve the world, since God is about to destroy much of it…and then remake it…again…think Noah’s Flood. I could kinda’ see their point here, but since all this is just very weird and wishful thinking, and old myth’s, they really aren’t very good world citizens…and kind of downers to be around socially.

**Whats up with letting Satan loose again…does God have no mercy?


Many fundamentalist Christians believe that the building of the Third Temple is one of the prerequisites for the second coming of Christ. Some Christian fundamentalists in the United States support arms sales and military aid to Israel in the belief that these actions will help Israel rebuild its Temple and thus bring about the End Times. Critics say the actions of fundamentalist Christians in Israel and Palestine, which includes providing material support for Jewish settlers in what was formerly Palestinian lands, is building dangerous tension in the area. However the Temple Mount is now controlled by Muslim’s, and is considered its most sacred (Dome of the Rock) site, so its unlikely that the Jews will attempt to build a new Temple there for a very long time…if ever.

Well, I think we can count out the fulfilling of this Temple3 prophecy for the immediate future. I don’t think the Muslim’s will give up the site and Israel so far looks like they don’t want to start WWIII.

All this sounds pretty scary, but since there is already lots of doubt about the stories I don’t think I’m going to worry about these Biblical myths very much. And people openly and loudly wishing for the end of the world need to go suck eggs. 🙂

Actually the Battle of Armageddon was fought in 1918, British Christianity…against the Ottoman Empire. We won.

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6 Responses to End Times, Armageddon, Second Coming. etc.

  1. Eduardo says:

    Hi Bill,

    Happy new year, may GOD bless you and your family.

    Did you watch History Channel about 2012 last night?
    if so, what do you think ?

    Here’s something for you just to think about….

    Just as today’s astronomers have a more expansive perspective on outer space than Galileo and Kepler did, so those throughout history who have been able to view earthly events from a cosmic point of view have had a broader understanding than most of us of the narrative of our planet through time. To illustrate, imagine that you are observing a steadily accelerating car from a helicopter several thousand feet above a three-lane highway. You can clearly see the road stretching to the horizon. Looking ahead, you notice that the road goes over a small rise and comes to a sudden fork where the lanes split sharply apart. Because the fork is hidden from the driver’s view until the last instant, there will be no time for him or her to change lanes before the road divides. If the car is in the left lane, it must take the left fork; if it’s in the right lane, it must go right. If it’s in the center lane, it will crash into the dividing barrier. Those are the only alternatives. Based on the car’s speed, you can calculate the precise instant it will arrive at the point of no return. How would you alert the driver to the imminent danger?

    To carry the analogy further: Each of us is the driver of our own car. Since we have free will, we can opt to switch lanes at any time before reaching the fork in the road. According to the received teachings, the choice is simple: you can dedicate your life to the service of self, in which case you attempt to dominate and control others to gain personal power, or you can be in service to others, focusing each thought, word, and deed for the benefit of another being. The first choice (service to self) would put your car in the left lane; the second choice (service to others) equates to the right lane. Opting for neither keeps you locked in the center lane.

    1. If you choose to believe in God, and if God exists, you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.

    2. If you choose to believe in God, and if God doesn’t exist, your loss is finite and therefore negligible.

    3. If you choose not to believe in God, and if God doesn’t exist, your gain is finite and therefore negligible.

    4. If you choose not to believe in God, and if God exists, you will go to hell: your loss is infinite.

    In my own case, the consequence is that an overriding thought now drives my every waking moment: how can I further help to shift the consciousness of humanity? These words barely capture what I truly feel. There is so much more I want to convey, but like my six and a half billion fellow travelers on this planet, I am still learning to use the language of the heart.

    The choice is yours.


  2. thewordofme says:

    Hi Eduardo, thanks for writing.

    I hope you had a good Christmas holiday season and that you have a great New Year.

    You argument is one of the oldest ones around. It is a rewording of Pascal’s Wager (1600’s AD) and I have heard it many times

    From Wikipedia:
    Pascal’s Wager (or Pascal’s Gambit) is a suggestion posed by the French philosopher Blaise Pascal that even though the existence of God cannot be determined through reason, a person should “wager” as though God exists, because so living has potentially everything to gain, and in theory nothing to lose. It was set out in note 233 of his Pensées, a posthumously published collection of notes made by Pascal in his last years as he worked on a treatise on Christian apologetics.

    Historically, Pascal’s Wager was groundbreaking as it had charted new territory in probability theory, was one of the first attempts to make use of the concept of infinity, marked the first formal use of decision theory, and anticipated the future philosophies of pragmatism and voluntarism.
    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pascal's_Wager

    The answer to this wager above was fielded soon afterwards.

    From Wikipedia:
    The Atheist’s Wager is an atheistic response to Pascal’s Wager. While Pascal suggested that it is better to take the chance of believing in a god that might not exist rather than to risk losing infinite happiness by disbelieving in a god that does, the Atheist’s Wager suggests that:

    You should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god.

    If there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind.

    If there is a benevolent god, he will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in him.

    Just think…enjoy your life on earth, don’t waste it waiting on a heaven that may not be there. If you are good you’ll make the cut if there is a heaven.)

    Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist%27s_Wager

    By many Christian’s beliefs…God knows the heart of men. Don’t you think a loving God would base his decisions about a person on how they live and act and think? Not what church they go to.

    Now many Christians tell me that people of other religions who are very good in their lifetime will also go to the Christian Heaven. Do you suppose this Atheist Wager applies to them?

  3. thewordofme says:

    Hi again Eduardo,

    Sorry, I didn’t answer your first question.
    No I didn’t see the program you refer too. Was it about the Mayan end of the world in 2012, or something from Nostradamus?
    I’ll wager you that the world will not end in 2012.
    If I lose…you will either go to the grave or to heaven.
    If I win…you will also win by living out your life to the fullest.

  4. Eduardo says:

    Hi Bill,

    Yes it is about the Mayan, Nostradamus + Edgar Cayce, the Egyptians, the American Indians, Chinese, and many other major civilisations, Scientific findings and most important the BIBLE.
    No it’s not about the END of the world, it’s about the changes (natural) that our planet will go trough ones again.
    Check your local TV Guide for the re-run, is very interesting and informative.

    Did you found the book that I suggested?

  5. thewordofme says:

    Hi Eduardo,
    Thing have been a little hectic around here lately. My wife’s father got sick was in hospital with life support and then died on Christmas day.
    Have not found book yet…but really haven’t had much time for looking.

  6. Indro@Jakarta says:

    Hello Eduardo,

    This option interests me:

    1. If you choose to believe in God, and if God exists, you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.

    I’ve read Richard Dawkins’ ‘The God Delusion’ and he argues, what if the ‘God’ here is not the Christian God (YHWH/Elohim/Father/etc)?? How can you be so certain that it is the Christian God? What if it is Allah, or Brahman, or Ahura Mazda? Will it then consequently you be going to hell for believing in the wrong God??


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