Sharia Law…Coming Soon to a Country Near You

Well the United Nations has gone and done it. This Thursday (3-26-09) a UN forum passed a resolution condemning the “defamation of religion” despite the concerns of many that it will be used to justify the clamping down on free speech in Muslim and other countries with high Muslim populations.The UN Human Rights Council passed the non-binding text that was proposed by Pakistan on behalf of Islamic states. The vote was 23 in favor, 11 against, with 13 abstentions.

Western democratic governments and a broad alliance of activist groups voiced dismay about the text, which adds to recent efforts to broaden the concept of human rights to protect communities of believers rather than individuals

“The resolution said Muslim minorities had faced intolerance, discrimination and acts of violence since the September 11, 2001, attacks on the United States, including laws and administrative procedures that stigmatize religious followers.

“Defamation of religious is a serious affront to human dignity leading to a restriction on the freedom of their adherents and incitement to religious violence,” the adopted text read, adding that “Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism.”

It called on states to ensure that religious places, sites, shrines and symbols are protected, to reinforce laws “to deny impunity” for those exhibiting intolerance of ethnic and religious minorities, and “to take all possible measures to promote tolerance and respect for all religions and beliefs.” From Reuters

This “defamation of religion” resolution is widely thought to ultimately muzzle any contrary views of the Islamic religion and allow Islamic states to continue to violate human rights. England already seems to have some form of restriction on free speech against religions as I keep reading of people getting in trouble speaking out against the Muslims in their country.

I particularly like the line above “Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism”

Say what? Wrongly associated? Human rights and terrorism? Of course that religion is associated with terrorism and human rights violations. Islam and the Islamic way of looking at the world is directly responsible for terrorism…who the hell was piloting the planes that crashed into the twin towers on September 11, 2001? Muslims were doing the deed, and they were financed by Saudi Arabian hard-line Muslim religionists.

Human rights violations you say; who in the hell punishes the woman who gets forcibly raped rather than the rapist, except the bloody Muslims s–t-heads? Who else kills the people born with a sexual preference different than their own, except the bloody Muslims?

Do you suppose this UN resolution will stop the Muslims from demonizing Israel and the Jews and Christianity? I wouldn’t hold my breath on this.

Who is it that is speaking out and saying that they want “Sharia law” to be the law of the land…everywhere—I believe that would be the Muslims.

Within Sharia law{1}{2}, there is a group of really interesting laws of “Haram” offenses which carry severe punishments. This would include pre-marital sexual intercourse, sex by divorced persons, post-marital sex, adultery, false accusation of unlawful intercourse, drinking alcohol, theft, and highway robbery, and of course homosexuality. Haram sexual offenses can carry a sentence of stoning to death or severe flogging.

Half or more of our country would be on death row if that ever happened here.

The Muslim religion is the direct cause of most of the worlds bloody fighting and genocide going on today, and now they want to get a “Get out of Jail free” card against any disparaging talk of them. And those that do talk bad of them will eventually get their ass thrown in jail for speaking out against Islam.

It seems the Muslims want “heresy” to be a criminal offence used against the whole world, secular and theist. I seem to remember some talk of this from evangelical fundamentalist type people too.

That just shows you a small part of how messed up the world is today…and it’s directly caused by religion…Muslims in this particular case.

1. The Origins of Islamic Law,” Constitutional Rights Foundation, at: http://www.crf-usa.org/terror/

2. Sharia Law,” Guardian Unlimited, at: http://www.guardian.co.uk/theissues/article/0,6512,777972,00.html

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16 Responses to Sharia Law…Coming Soon to a Country Near You

  1. abdal says:

    Actually Christians and Jews had far more rights under Shariah in Andulisia than they did under feudal Catholicism. Witness the Inquisition directed against ant-catholic Christians and Jews as soon as the Muslims left. Moreover, Most of Shariah is the same as Jewish Torah law, “thou shalt not kill”, etc. In any case, even fundamentalists say that Shariah does not apply to non-Muslims in pluralistic countries. and the Shariah practised by so called Muslim nations in the Middle East is rejected by all scholars as being a depraved mand made abomination, and wicked distortion of justice. as even the US and EU admit.

    so what should non-Muslims do when believing Muslims (those left) want marriage and divorce arbitrated by Muslim courts with the right of appeal to civil courts? Perhaps they should applaud it as an exercise of religious liberty since Muslims can always opt out, and it gives local community self government to religious authorities. It would be nice if Jews also had this right to use Talmudic sources to arbitrate family issues. all at a lower cost and better result for civil society and traditional values.

    But the west in the old divide and cnquer strategy is resisting such liberty, based on the alleged threat. meanwhile by a hundred fold , Christians kill their spouses in comparison to the few nuts discovered doing the honor killings condemned by traditional Islam.

    moe at:

  2. thewordofme says:

    Hi Abdal, thank you for writing.

    Understand that I have ranted against Catholicism and Protestant religions just as much as I have Islam, so don’t be too offended.

    I realize that Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other for hundreds and hundreds of years over stupid ass little points of theology. Also Christians and Muslims have a long history of doing the same. If you read enough of my blog you will see that that is one of my biggest problems with any religion.

    Although religion has in many ways helped humanity, its good is overwhelmed by the terrible toll it has taken on human life and sanity through the years. I personally thinks that overall religion is bad and should be abandoned, not only because of its evil effects on us, but because it is nothing but myths.

    When people immigrate and live in different countries, they are subject to the laws of the countries they immigrate to.

    If you come to live in America you have to obey the laws we already have…not make up some that just apply to your ethnic group, or try to impose your sense of religious morality on others.

    We do not tolerate what the Muslims do, such as honor killings, women as property, stoning of people who break some kind of religious law, etc..

    In our country, and most other civilized ones, religion is not allowed to control the government and how it administers laws to common or secular people. Religion also has NO power of life or death over any citizen, male or female. The freely elected government is the only entity that has that power, and it all is controlled by (mostly) secular laws. I do admit there are still some laws left that had religious beginnings.

    Another thing about the Muslims that really bothers me is that they allow these insanely stupid Mullahs or religious leaders to rant and rave on about killing the infidels and the heretics and killing all who oppose Islam…and the mainline Muslim does not speak out to them and kick them out of any power they may have, and publicly denounce their beliefs. Why is that??

    Yes we have people here that kill their wives for many reasons, but for the most part religion is not one of them. I tend to follow news that comes out of the Middle-Eastern countries and I am appalled by the Islamic way of treating women and female children, and it is not small isolated happenings, it is a major problem, and there is a major problem with the childhood training of the Islamic men, and that leads to a problem with the intellectual makeup of said men.

    The Western world has more or less tamed Christianity and does not allow it to do the things that Islamic religion does. By having a secular government and secular businesses and secular colleges and universities that do not interject religion in its workings we have advanced much further than any Muslim controlled land ever could.

    Religion is anathema to free and open society and must be controlled. You only have to read history to know how bad religion is to human freedom.

    Some words of Islam I have found on the internet:

    “The day will come when everything will be relieved of the Jews – even the stones and trees which were harmed by them. Listen to the Prophet Muhammad, who tells you about the evil end that awaits Jews. The stones and trees will want the Muslims to finish off every Jew.” Ibrahim Mudeiris

    “We have ruled the world before, and by Allah, the day will come when we will rule the entire world again! The day will come when we will rule America. The day will come when we rule Britain and the entire world!” Ibrahim Mudeiris

    To me it seems the Muslims don’t fit in modern society as they refuse to adapt to new things and ways of living and THINKING.

    Humankind advances by letting go of outdated beliefs and ways of doing things, and we would advance much faster if the major religions would stop this insane constant bickering and killing.

    No one in the real world cares about these crazy dumb-ass beliefs anymore.

  3. abdal says:

    ” We do not tolerate what the Muslims do, such as onor killings, women as property, stoning of people who break some kind of religious law, etc..”

    Ha ha . U have been watching too much FOX News friend.

    But I like the way you justify intolerance by justification of tolerance. Isn’t what “We do not tolerate” mean actually opposition to feminist new gender values, self government of communities, speaking out for natural law historical values. Everything now must be justified in the ethos of the filthy depraved culture of neo-liberalism.

    Just remember the Nazis and Communists were not religious, they were anti-religious , and it was good liberals which incinerated children at Hiroshima and Dresden and Waco. Not even considering partial birth abortion.

    Athiest Liberals will kill children in the name of tolerance.

    They scare me more than Jihadis.

  4. Kazee says:

    Dont confuse Jihadis or the Taliban with Islam. The Taliban was set up by Carter-Brezinski to donduct terror operations against the Soviets with training in insurgency from the CIA and special forces. If u r interested u can read their tactics in any US Army ield Manual FM on low intensity conflict and insurgency. And when they were doing terrible things in the name of Islam, they were receiving billions from the US, Britain, and saudi.

    Even in the 90s the Clinton administration was giving them hundreds of millions. So they were mercenaries working for Christians, not Muslims.

  5. thewordofme says:

    Hi Abdal, thank you for your reply.

    My friend I do not watch Fox news. Those people are lunatics of the first order. 🙂

    I am not opposed to new feminist gender values…or the old ones either. The only thing I would want for women is freedom from the absolute control of men…they are humans, not some property of ours to do with as we please.

    They may marry as they please…or not. They may dress as they please, and date whom they want without any interference from brothers or parents or uncles, etc.. All of this of course, when they reach maturity. No marriage or betrothal until they are at least 16, preferably 18…same with men.

    Communities may be self governed within limits. There are some laws that are universal across the country. Most criminal laws are like this. No religion that is allowed to punish with death, actually no religion may punish for any religious reason, in any community. Most of the old Christian morality laws are gone now from most Western societies.

    The US does not tolerate any religion having any power of punishment, for any reason, against any person, religious or secular, in any community. The religions may shun members, but that’s as far as it goes.

    You write:
    “Athiest Liberals will kill children in the name of tolerance.
    They scare me more than Jihadis.”

    I’m sorry, but I have no idea what you are saying here. I am an atheist and I would not kill a child for any reason…no matter what religion the child is.

    You write:
    “Just remember the Nazis and Communists were not religious, they were anti-religious , and it was good liberals which incinerated children at Hiroshima and Dresden and Waco. Not even considering partial birth abortion.”

    The Nazi’s and Communists were not killing for anti-religious reasons…well the Nazi’s were a little bit. That was a case of Christianity against the Jews. Kind of like what the Muslims want to do to the Jews nowadays. Mostly the killing was for greed and political and power reasons.

    World War II is the only one I consider righteous on our side. The war was started by crazy people and aimed at mostly peaceful countries.

    I do not for a second support what happened at Waco, Texas. I think our government was terribly, horribly wrong in what they did, and the people responsible should have been tried for murder in a court of law.

    You write:
    “Everything now must be justified in the ethos of the filthy depraved culture of neo-liberalism.”

    Again friend I have no idea what you mean here. I am not a filthy depraved person, neither is my wife or children or grandchildren. My friends and neighbors are nice people that would not hurt anyone or anything on purpose. Like any fairly large city in which we live there are crooks and criminals and murders, but they are a small percentage of the population and they get caught and put in prison.

    Now our government is another matter. They are, all the time, doing things that most Americans think is wrong, and we people as individuals, cannot control much of what they do any given day. The government is very strong and controls many things that, frankly, it should not.

  6. thewordofme says:

    Hi Kazee, thank you for your reply.

    You are talking mostly politics and political maneuvering to control a country here…something that is just as bad a religious maneuvering to control a people. I don’t support any kind of nefarious behind the scenes operations by any government Christian, Muslim, or Jewish, that ends up killing people.

    Aren’t Jihadis and Taliban of the Muslim religion? Don’t they pray to Allah?

    Muslim mercenaries working for Christians, killing Muslims…Hmm…

    I think in every country on earth there are people that will kill for money…Are those people religious, or do they just pretend, or do they somehow rationalize it as for the common good. One problem, murder is never “for the common good”

    In my blog I am concerned with religion mostly…not politics. Remember I am an atheist not a Christian or Jew. I attack all religions equally…no discrimation. 🙂

    Americans are allowed to disagree with their government, and I disagree with mine on a lot of matters…so, peace my friend.

  7. Kazi says:

    “Aren’t Jihadis and Taliban of the Muslim religion? Don’t they pray to Allah?”

    I have met 100s of Muslims but never met a Jihadi I guess they exist since theyre on television all the time. If what is meant by Jihadi , people who oppose colinial control of their countries by foreign troops, then I think the founding fathers were Jihadis. I think u could put the Taliban in there too as anti-colonialists, as far as I know they condemned 911 and terrorism of that type.

    I think atheists r correct to oppose the violence done in the name of religion, especially Inquisition, Crusades, type mass murder and torture for reasons of conscience. Islam is totally against that which is why there were so many Jews i Islamic Spain, . But the Muslims and Jews were slaughtered once the romans claiming to be Christians took over.

    I am very rebellious towards illegitimate authority and rejected religion for manyyears, and still reject religion with a capital R meaning organized state or hierarchical religion. I found atheism to be kind of hierarchical religion of sorts since it receives so much funding and support from power centers in in the G-8. It is the best religion for a materialistic consumer atom.

    But my social critique , combined with my exposure to certain theories in mathematical physics as a mathematician, which led me to really doubt the modern views of epostemology. But Im no philosopher, but recognize the atheistic search for truth as a valid spiritual quest. I just think that it eventually leads to unhappiness in the full person, not just the sense-appetite personhood.

    One of us could be wrong, and probably both of us our wrong in our absolute understanding. May we be guided to a higher understanding for our happiness and the happiness of our families and communities. thats what religion should be about.

    GB

  8. thewordofme says:

    Hi Kazi, thanks for your reply.

    You write:
    “I think atheists are correct to oppose the violence done in the name of religion, especially Inquisition, Crusades, type mass murder and torture for reasons of conscience. Islam is totally against that which is why there were so many Jews in Islamic Spain, . But the Muslims and Jews were slaughtered once the Romans claiming to be Christians took over.”

    I think ALL religions should get together and universally condemn any and all violence, terrorism, bad manners towards each other, hurtful conduct towards each other…in short the religions on this earth need to realize that what they are doing to each other is NOT WHAT A GOD WOULD WANT…If he existed.

    I know that all religions have killed each other over trivial-stupid-minor points of theology ever since it was invented. These people are seemingly blind to the fact that what they are doing to each other is showing the whole world that their religion, and a loving God, is nothing more than a man-made myth. If there ever was a God, or Allah, as talked about by people of religion…that God would not want to be associated with the stupid people that kill over Him/Her.

    You write:
    “I am very rebellious towards illegitimate authority and rejected religion for many years, and still reject religion with a capital R meaning organized state or hierarchical religion. I found atheism to be kind of hierarchical religion of sorts since it receives so much funding and support from power centers in the G-8. It is the best religion for a materialistic consumer atom.”

    Religion of any kind has no legitimate authority over man. For a religion to have that authority it must be true and the God must be real.

    Being an atheist for near 50 years I can say that it is nothing like a religion. We worship nothing. When we die we expect to die and nothing else. We can find absolutely no evidence that ANY God has been proved, seen, or experienced. Anybody that says different has been hallucinating or is fooling themselves.

    I don’t think atheism has any big money supporters here in the US.

    I think our politicians find that the religious people are a lot easier to keep in line, especially since most hard-line religious people follow leaders quite easily…not too much dissension.

    You wrote:
    “But my social critique , combined with my exposure to certain theories in mathematical physics as a mathematician, which led me to really doubt the modern views of epostemology. But I’m no philosopher, but recognize the atheistic search for truth as a valid spiritual quest. I just think that it eventually leads to unhappiness in the full person, not just the sense-appetite personhood.”

    Yes, I think that many atheists feel they are on some kind of quest for knowledge, although I wouldn’t call it a spiritual quest. Myself, I have keep looking for any truths to be found behind the Christian religion…I am about to give up, as I can find no genuine evidence for its truthfulness.

    You Write:
    “One of us could be wrong, and probably both of us our wrong in our absolute understanding. May we be guided to a higher understanding for our happiness and the happiness of our families and communities. That’s what religion should be about.”

    Verily…one of us IS wrong on the big question…Is it real?

    Family and friends and happiness and safety are what the whole shebang is about…nothing else really matters.

    I wish you the best of it all my friend.

  9. kazi says:

    I went through the same thing in my quest to find truth in the official Christian religion. Then I learned about the Ebionites, not the later Catholic heresy, but the original Christians in Jerusalem that followed James the brother of Jesus. They didnt believe anything of the current Christianity which is an abortion created by Rome. and remember, a state religion, the worst kind of religion.

    The earliest gospels, puged by the romans, r totally consistent with the Ebionite beliefs in the red letters of Christs actual teachings, not all that fill and commentary probably created by monks centuries later. The Cath. Encylop. entry on the Ebionites said their beliefs were similar to Islamic beliefs. That freaked me out as a Christian but I coulnt stop looking. then I found Del Tondo’s book, Jesus Words Only. Then everything made sense. that and the beauty of true Islam, not the fox news version which is an ugly religion.

    Heres a comedy video to cheer u up!

  10. thewordofme says:

    Hi again Kazi, thanks for writing.

    I am glad you found what you where looking for. I have long thought that the Catholic version of Christianity was flawed.

    Over the past few years I have been researching the Christian belief system and have recently come to the personal conclusion that the whole of religion is a scam. There appears to be no truth in many of the biblical stories, there are many discrepancies and untruths, and after all these years people still can’t agree on the theology and go off and kill people over it. The bottom line on all religions is that they are false…simply a pacifier for humanity, and with all the deaths and suffering associated with them…a net loss.
    Peace

  11. kazi says:

    If u find yourself agreeing with Fox News, or its evil twin CNN, ithen u need to step back and think if you’ve been manipulated by powerfl advertising systems. Atheism is the religion of Satanic forces, Religion with a cpital R hierarchical state religion, its mind control blunt instrument. Beware of finding truth in lies, or follow what really believe that is affirmative (not just negation of what dont believe). Affirmation of good things you feel in your heart will lead yu to the path . Sallam.

  12. thewordofme says:

    Hi Kazi, thanks for writing.

    I have a copy of an old quote from Mark Twain hanging on my wall. It says:

    “Whenever you find your self on the side of the majority…its time to step back and reconsider your position.”

    I do not watch Fox news at all, and I check out all news from 2 or more sources before I start to believe it. Most of my news comes from newspaper from all over the world.

    You state: “Atheism is the religion of Satanic forces”

    I disagree with you on this, as I do not believe in Satan, or any other spirits or demons. There is no magic operating in our world. The evil you see is purely man-made and not the result of some supernatural creature.

    I am a good person and I affirm this every day.

  13. kazi says:

    every major newspaper globally is controlled and filtered i a simulation of a pluralistic system. In fact, it is its opposite. Look at media structure, look at who set up al jazeera, and the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, and you;ll start to see what I mean. There are spritiaual elements to evil regardless of your belief in God and you know this as a good person. Thee spritual evil forces are satanic in the metaphorical sense if not literal.

    who else drops WP white phosporous bombs in children in Gaza?

  14. thewordofme says:

    Hi Kazi,

    “who else drops WP white phosporous bombs in children in Gaza?” You say.

    Only the most evil of all the evil in the world.

  15. Susannah says:

    Interesting dialogue here, friends.
    Wordofme~ I am in full agreement w/ the initial assertions of your post. You lost me, however, w/ Sam Harris’ self-congratulatory arrogance.

    I feel very sad for those who don’t believe in a God who loves – unconditionally. It’s not pity, mind you. You’re perfectly entitled to hold your position…
    Just that faith (unlike Religion) is experiential, relational. It’s a relationship w/ the God of the Universe. The same One who did the Big Bang, evolution, dinosaurs, Grand Canyon, Swiss Alps, hydras & the fuzzy fur of a bumble bee created me & you. The same One who did all this loves me, and you. Missing that relationship is sad; tragic even.

    I respect your intellect. I admire your dedication to your position. But, if nothing of this (faith) matters to you anyway, why bother with ridiculing those who do believe, do find comfort, do live for deeper meaning than themselves? You’ll have to enlighten me, b/c I don’t get all the brouhaha over Christians @ athiest websites, if it’s meaningless to you folks anyway. Thanks for any insight you could offer here.

    Abdal~
    ” ‘We do not tolerate what the Muslims do, such as onor killings, women as property, stoning of people who break some kind of religious law, etc..’
    Ha ha . U have been watching too much FOX News friend.”

    7 words: International Bestseller ‘The Stoning of Soraya M’
    ——– Which, to my knowledge, has not been featured on Fox News.
    Also, the beheading of a Muslim wife by her ‘moderate’ Muslim husband several months ago – in New Jersey. Technically, it is being called a domestic violence case gone south. The community knows it for what it is: ‘honor killing’ – in America. Sorry, but I don’t share your understanding of this.

  16. thewordofme says:

    Hi Susannah, thank you for writing.

    The Sam Harris video is just an add on that doesn’t necessarily connect with the blog post. I have spread different ones throughout the blog…just for entertainment.

    I don’t think you need to feel very sorry or sad for the atheist or agnostics in this world, I think the overwhelming majority are good people and love their lives and intellectual position.

    You write”
    “Just that faith (unlike Religion) is experiential, relational. It’s a relationship w/ the God of the Universe. The same One who did the Big Bang, evolution, dinosaurs, Grand Canyon, Swiss Alps, hydras & the fuzzy fur of a bumble bee created me & you. The same One who did all this loves me, and you. Missing that relationship is sad; tragic even.”

    You of course realize that we non-believers know that the things you mention above have mostly proven natural origins…i.e. no magic was involved. Sole exception may be the Big Bang. 🙂

    You write”
    “I feel very sad for those who don’t believe in a God who loves – unconditionally.”

    Haven’t read much of the Old Testament have you?

    You write:
    “I respect your intellect. I admire your dedication to your position. But, if nothing of this (faith) matters to you anyway, why bother with ridiculing those who do believe, do find comfort, do live for deeper meaning than themselves? You’ll have to enlighten me, b/c I don’t get all the brouhaha over Christians @ atheist websites, if it’s meaningless to you folks anyway. Thanks for any insight you could offer here.

    I personally write about the atheist viewpoint and research Biblical and Christian mythology as a very interesting hobby (to me) as I have a great interest in historical stuff…my major in college.

    I also abhor the fact that millions of evangelical fundamentalists Christians (Muslims too I suppose) households are teaching their children lies about our world. These lies have consequences as the children grow up without the necessary knowledge and skills of intellect to survive in an increasingly technological environment.

    Some colleges are already denying admittance to students who were taught in some religious schools and do not have the necessary knowledge base to survive the college curriculum.

    Scholastically we (USA) keep falling behind in the sciences compared to other nations.

    If I can reach one or two people and cause them to think independently and explore the lies they have been taught in religious schools, or at home about our world, then it will be worthwhile. Also I love to argue. 🙂

    twom

    PS You have a nice blog…I see you are very right wing…I used to be.

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