Original Sin

“Man is a marvelous curiosity … he thinks he is the Creator’s pet … he even believes the Creator loves him; has a passion for him; sits up nights to admire him; yes and watch over him and keep him out of trouble. He prays to Him and thinks He listens. Isn’t it a quaint idea?” Mark Twain

Do young Christians look at their newborn child and think the babe is full of sin or do they think their child is perfect in every way, from the moment it is born? Well, perhaps until they become a teenager.

The Catholic Church has for two thousand years thought the newborn child would go to hell if it died before being baptized into the church. According to Wikipedia… “Most Christians practice infant baptism. They include the Roman Catholic Church, the Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodoxy, Armenian Apostolic Church, Assyrian Church of the East, the Anglican Communion, Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, some Church of the Nazarene, the Reformed Church in America, the United Church of Canada, the United Church of Christ (UCC)

“The Roman Catholic Church considers baptism, even for an infant, so important that “parents are obliged to see that their infants are baptized within the first few weeks” and, “if the infant is in danger of death, it is to be baptized without any delay.” It declares: “The practice of infant Baptism is an immemorial tradition of the Church.”

St. Cyprian stated that ‘God’s mercy and grace should not be refused to anyone born’, …’Born with a fallen human nature and tainted by original sin, children also have need of the new birth in Baptism to be freed from the power of darkness and brought into the realm of the freedom of the children of God, to which all men are called… The Church and the parents would deny a child the priceless grace of becoming a child of God were they not to confer Baptism shortly after birth.” Catechism of the Catholic Church

The whole idea of original sin is nonsense and has no Biblical support outside of Paul, a man that never even met Jesus.

2 Kings 14:6 “But the children of the murderers he slew not: according unto that which is written in the book of the law of Moses, wherein the LORD commanded, saying, The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, nor the children be put to death for the fathers; but every man shall be put to death for his own sin.”

Ezek. 18:20 “The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.”

Deut. 24:16 “The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.”

Judaism is strong in its belief that a person is born innocent – not evil, not good, but innocent. Jews believe that man enters the world free of sin, with a soul that is pure and innocent and untainted. We are given a clean slate.

Saint Augustine (354-430) was the first theologian to teach that man is born into this world in a state of sin. He maintains that the sin of Adam was transferred to all future generations, tainting even the unborn. This view is to be found in the New Testament (Romans 5:12) where Paul says, “Wherefore as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned. By one man’s disobedience many were made sinners.”

Once again we find that the Bible and the theology that comes from its followers is contradictory and confusing…another sign that the whole thing is not true.

“The Bible has been used for centuries by Christians as a weapon of control. To read it literally is to believe in a three-tiered universe, to condone slavery, to treat women as inferior creatures, to believe that sickness is caused by God’s punishment and that mental disease and epilepsy are caused by demonic possession. When someone tells me that they believe the Bible is the ‘literal and inerrant word of God,’ I always ask, ‘Have you ever read it’?” Bishop John Shelby Spong.

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The Sins of Haiti

All the crazy Christians are out in force either defending ‘God’ for letting an earthquake kill so many innocent people in Haiti or telling us that the Haitians deserved it because they aligned with Satan a few hundred years ago.

I kind of like Richard Dawkin’s explanation because of it’s short and direct observation…which just happens to be true.

From the Washington Post.
We know what caused the catastrophe in Haiti. It was the bumping and grinding of the Caribbean Plate rubbing up against the North American Plate: a force of nature, sin-free and indifferent to sin, un-premeditated, unmotivated, supremely unconcerned with human affairs or human misery. Richard Dawkins 1-25-10

I think we will find that ALL  disasters such as earthquakes, tsunamis, volcano’s, mudslides, floods, etc., etc. that humans have been subjected to in our long history here on earth are purely natural with no ‘God’ EVER having being involved.  Just like there were no witches when the Catholic church condemned and began killing them by the tens of thousands way back in the Dark Ages…there is NO ‘God’  ever involved in our natural or manmade disasters.

To read the Richard Dawkin’s piece in the WaPo go here:

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The Failed Prophecy of Jesus

Matthew 16:27-28
“For the Son of Man is going to come in his Father’s glory with his angels, and then he will reward each person according to what he has done. I tell you the truth, some who are standing here will not taste death before they see the Son of Man coming in his kingdom.”

Matthew 24:30-34
“At that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and all the nations of the earth will mourn. They will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of the sky, with power and great glory. And he will send his angels with a loud trumpet call, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other … Even so, when you see all these things, you know that it is near, right at the door. I tell you the truth; this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

Luke 21:25-33
“There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near … Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that the kingdom of God is near. I tell you the truth, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.”

We all know of course that this prophecy of Jesus that he would return before the present generation died never happened, and Christian apologists have been trying for over a thousand years to either explain it or somehow deny it.

Some have argued that Jesus’ use of the word generation (genea in Greek) does not signify a generation as most people understood, but that a secondary meaning of genea, namely, race, the Jewish race, could have been intended.
This however would seem to suggest the unlikely possibility that the many scholars who produced our major English translations of the Bible were incompetent and had not the ability to discern the true meaning of the word, despite their mastery of Greek and the textual context.

Another thing to consider here is that the apostolic gospels were written by anonymous authors…not the true Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Now we take a verse from the Old Testament

Deuteronomy 18:21-22
“You may say to yourselves, “How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?” If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true, that is a message the LORD has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously. Do not be afraid of him.”

Now Moses is the reputed author of Deuteronomy and all fundagelicals believe this to be true, but consider this…Deuteronomy was the work of King Josiah and his reforms: M. L. de Wette initiated this view in 1805 by suggesting King Josiah had Deuteronomy created as a type of “pious fraud” to further his agenda of religious reform. Since then this has become the dominant view among most scholars.[1] Proponents of this view point to the lack of penalties for attending feasts and theological theme of centralized worship. [1]Richard Elliott Friedman, Who Wrote the Bible? (New York: HarperCollins, 1997).

So we have unknown authors writing of a reputed Jesus prophesying that he will be back real soon…riding up in the clouds and men of power will quake in their boots, and it never happened.  And we have either King Josiah or Moses, hundreds of years’ earlier, teaching men that those who prophesy something that never happens are not to be believed.

I’m so confused..:-)

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Scientific Knowledge

For over a millennium Christianity arrested the development of science and scientific thinking. In Christendom, from the time of Augustine until the Renaissance, systematic investigation of the natural world was restricted to theological investigation—the interpretation of biblical passages, the gleaning of clues from the lives of the saints, etc.; there was no direct observation and interpretation of natural processes, because that was considered a useless pursuit, as all knowledge resided in scripture.

The results of this are well known: scientific knowledge advanced hardly an inch in the over 1000 years from the rise of orthodox Christianity in the fourth century to the 1500s, and the populace was mired in the deepest squalor and ignorance, living in dire fear of the supernatural—believing in paranormal explanations for the most ordinary natural events.

This ignorance had tragic results: it made the populace more than ready to accept witchcraft as an explanation for everything from illness to thunderstorms, and hundreds of thousands of women (and some men…and some say the number is up to 3 million) paid for that ignorance with their lives. One of the commonest charges against witches was that they had raised hailstorms or other weather disturbances to cause misfortune to their neighbors. In an era when supernatural explanations were readily accepted, such charges held weight—and countless innocent people died horrible deaths as a result.

(Now a sane and rational person would realize from the lack of  any real evidence that there were no witches and not buy into this crap, and the so called ‘men of God’ would know that a real God would not sanction what they were doing to thousands of innocent people.  Logic dictates that the leaders of the Catholic Church knew there was  no God so they weren’t bothered by how evil  the deed was they were doing. I don’t think there is any way that theistic apologia can rationalize  the things they did in ‘God’s’ name ).

Another result was that the fearful populace remained very dependent upon Christianity and its clerical wise men for protection against the supernatural evils which they believed surrounded and constantly menaced them. For men and women of the Middle Ages, the walls veritably crawled with demons and witches; and their only protection from those evils was the church.

When scientific investigation into the natural world resumed in the Renaissance—after a 1000-year-plus hiatus—organized Christianity did everything it could to stamp it out. The cases of Copernicus and Galileo are particularly relevant here, because when the Catholic Church banned the Copernican theory (that the Earth revolves around the sun) and banned Galileo from teaching it, it did not consider the evidence for that theory: it was enough that it contradicted scripture.

Given that the Copernican theory directly contradicted the Word of God, the Catholic hierarchy reasoned that it must be false. Protestants shared this view. John Calvin rhetorically asked, “Who will venture to place the authority of Copernicus above that of the Holy Spirit?”

Who Indeed…

Words in parenthesis and italics are mine.

Adapted from Freethoughtpedia Here

“Saint Augustine… laid down an important principle … that if a scriptural text contradicts science, you must give it an allegorical interpretation.”

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Of course all of you out there in webland know that ALL of the fundagelical organizations lie lie lie in just about everything they do…and they somehow think this is OK.

Blasphemy Laws Not Dead After All

Well the new Irish Blasphemy law is effect in Ireland now. Here’s what some think about the law.

“Whether a person is atheist or any other, there is in fact in my view something not totally human if they leave out the transcendent… we call it God… I think that if you leave that out you are not fully human.” Because atheism is not a religion, the Irish blasphemy law does not protect atheists from abusive and insulting statements about their fundamental beliefs. While atheists are not seeking such protection, we include the statement here to point out that it is discriminatory that this law does not hold all citizens equal.” Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, 2009
Perhaps the atheists should incorporate as a religion and all the religious zealots would have to stop calling us “not fully human”…in Ireland anyway.

“May Allah curse the Jews and Christians for they built the places of worship at the graves of their prophets.” This quote was attributed to Muhammad on his death-bed as a warning to Muslims not to copy this practice of the Jews and Christians. It is one of several passages in the Koran and in Hadith that can give a scriptural foundation to Islamic anti-Semitism, including the assertion in Sura 5:60 that Allah cursed Jews and turned some of them into apes and swine. Muhammad, quoted in Hadith of Bukhari, Vol 1 Book 8 Hadith 427. And the Muslims just keep on lying as usual about their being a peaceful religion. Tell a big enough lie, long enough, and people start to believe it…well, stupid people will believe it.

Michael Martin, who is the Irish Minister for Foreign Affairs, opposing attempts by Islamic States to make defamation of religion a crime…at the United Nations level in 2009: “We believe that the concept of defamation of religion is not consistent with the promotion and protection of human rights. It can be used to justify arbitrary limitations on, or the denial of, freedom of expression. Indeed, Ireland considers that freedom of expression is a key and inherent element in the manifestation of freedom of thought and conscience and as such is complementary to freedom of religion or belief.”  Not much later the Blasphemy law was proposed in Ireland by one of Mr. Martin’s colleagues.  The Irish, Brits and Scots legislators have a long tradition of not listening to their common folk and passing BAAAAD laws.

This blasphemy law is for all intents and purposes aimed at protecting the Muslim religious adherents of Ireland from badmouthing from the largely Christian English components of the country. This is basically the same law that Muslim countries in the UN are trying to pass off on the whole world.  This is another sign of how evil the Muslim religion is.  From any other religion there would be a tremendous outcry if an attempt was made to pass off this evil plan on the world.

We are still at the beginning of Islamic attempts to openly conquer the Christians and Jews  and eventually any others who disagree with their religious dogma, and make-over the world in Muhammad’s vision. The first step was the Twin Towers  on 9-11 to electrify and wake up their people to the power they can wield by unconventional warfare. Now we are in the second phase…make it illegal to criticize them.  Kinda what Hitler did…passed laws making it illegal to criticize the party.

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