The Christian Right Wants What Muslims Want
June 28, 2011 2 Comments
What is the agenda of the Muslim extremists, other than killing infidels? Well we know that they are anti-woman’s rights and anti-gay rights. They will kill women who step out of line and kill any person exhibiting gay behavior. Their countries are generally controlled by religion and have no separation of church and state.
Funny thing…the Christian Right has pretty much the same agenda. Women are considered second class citizens by the church hierarchy of most Christian denominations. All but a handful of Christian churches condemn the homosexuals to burn in hell forever…and several evil fundamentalist movements want us Americans to be ruled by Old Testament law, which essentially means no separation of church and state.
So it seems that the Christian right wants exactly what the Muslim extremists want…they both want to take over America and make us slaves to their religion.
Fundamentalist Religion of any kind is evil, and bad for our country’s future. As civilized, thinking, and caring people we need to recognize the threat these evil people present to us and our country and do our best to dissuade them from what they are trying to do. They need to be exposed for what they are…a deadly and real threat to civilization.
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I would ask you how exactly Christians want to make Americans our slaves? Our entire religion is taught on two commandments. (I’m paraphrasing) ‘Love thy Lord thy God with all your heart, mind, soul, everything and love thy neighbor as you love thyself.’ Jesus showed us exactly how to do that. He showed us to help others, to be humble and respectful to them. We’re not supposed to judge and go around ‘you’re a sinner, you deserve Hell!’ Because we all deserve to go to Hell. But rather we’re to show love to others. Now I’m not saying there aren’t Christians out there who do that, but they’re a little misguided. We’re not supposed to condemn people, we’re supposed to try and help them. And I know I’m probably opening myself up to insults and stuff, but being a homosexual isn’t right. Even if you aren’t religious, it isn’t. If we all turned homosexual tomorrow, the human race would die out. We were obviously made for a man and a woman to go together. If it was OK to be homosexual, then we’d be able to procreate that way.
Plus, I don’t see how religion is the downfall of the country. Anymore when people find out you’re religious, they insult you. Even if you’re being kind and nice to them, they’ll insult you and accuse you of shoving their beliefs down their throat. We’re in a minority. Look around you. We’re against sex before marriage, drugs, excessive alcohol, unnecessary violence, etc. Yet it seems to be everywhere around us. If we’re against it, and we’re in control, ‘ruining things’ like you say, then how is that stuff everywhere? Wouldn’t it be subdued? I’d also mention, when the debate about creationism in schools comes up, everyone who doesn’t believe in God begins flipping about how we’re attacking their beliefs and how it’s wrong and how we need to step back. But why is it right to have evolution/big bang/ etc taught to me or my kids as being the truth. What’s the difference? Because you’re shoving things down my throat. Or is it different because it’s your beliefs and not mine?
Hello EMTWB141, thank you for your thoughtful reply.
“How exactly do Christians want to make Americans our slaves?”
Well actually the statement was:”So it seems that the Christian right wants exactly what the Muslim extremists want…they both want to take over America and make us slaves to *their religion.*
The Republican Party and the Tea Party are both controlled by the evangelical fundamentalist religious right. Their stated goal is to make Christian Biblical law the law of our land…just as the Islamic religion and Koranic law controls most of the countries they are a majority in, the Christian right wants their Biblical mores to control Americas. This effectively means that all who live in America would be living under Christian religious law. Incidentally, this was tried in medieval times…it was called “The Dark Ages”
Of course there are many people who would agree with this. I mean there are many millions who want to stop abortion and who are dead set against homosexuality. However Christian Bible law goes way further than those two items. There are also biblical injunctions against fornication, adultery, masturbation, mixing with women who are on their period, etc. Just those things alone would eliminate three fourths (or more) of the American population as they are all punishable by death according to God…well except the abortion thing; there is nothing in the Bible against abortion, nothing that says an egg is inviolate the moment it’s fertilized…that’s Catholic bulls*it.
For a better handle on what the religious right is doing, and trying to do, you should do some googling about religious control of the Republicans and Tea Party, (1)(2)Dominionists, evangelical fundamentalists, Biblical rule in America, Answers in Genesis (AiG), and Institute for Creation research (ICR). These people are not the ”love your neighbor” or “Judge not lest thee be judged” types.
You write:
“Plus, I don’t see how religion is the downfall of the country. Anymore when people find out you’re religious, they insult you. Even if you’re being kind and nice to them, they’ll insult you and accuse you of shoving their beliefs down their throat. We’re in a minority.”
You (Christians) are definitely not a minority. Catholics and Protestants are the overwhelming majority in this country. (3)The majority of Americans (76%) identify themselves as Christians, mostly within Protestant and Catholic denominations, accounting for 51% and 25% of the population respectively. Atheist or non-believers are listed at 15% and this is double what it was 10 years ago. The last few percent are mixed with Buddhists, Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc.
If you travel in the Southern United States one of the first few questions you are asked is what denomination you are. If you live there and do not attend church regularly you are sometimes snubbed socially. I have personally witnessed both of these behaviors. I have also been accosted in an airport several times by Christians witnessing their faith to me.
I have personally never witnessed someone of no faith berating a Christian believer, but that’s not to say it never happens.
You write:
“And I know I’m probably opening myself up to insults and stuff, but being a homosexual isn’t right. Even if you aren’t religious, it isn’t. If we all turned homosexual tomorrow, the human race would die out. We were obviously made for a man and a woman to go together. If it was OK to be homosexual, then we’d be able to procreate that way.
If you believe God created the earth and humans and such, why do you think he made so many homosexuals? From what I understand those who are…were born that way, and at a very young age realize this. I do understand that it is not something that can be prayed away. I am not saying yes or no to the marriage thing, but I do say they should have every human right that we have, and they should not have religious weirdo’s trying to kill them…which has happened.
How would you feel if laws were in place to kill or imprison you for fornication or adultery or homosexuality? The Muslims have that already…large numbers of Christians are working to make that a reality here in the States. I personally think that religion and government do not belong in anyone’s bedroom. What we do in privacy (between consenting adults) is only our own business…no one else’s.
You write:
“Yet it seems to be everywhere around us. If we’re against it, and we’re in control, ‘ruining things’ like you say, then how is that stuff everywhere? Wouldn’t it be subdued?”
At this point in time the religious are not in position to control those behaviors…they are working towards it by fronting candidates for public office (from dog catcher to president) who are of a like mind. President Bush was one and look what he did. Faith based charities got government backing, there are religious cliques infiltrating our military…If you do not profess faith in the Christian God in the military today you stand a really good chance of being assaulted and/or denied opportunities for advancement. And yes there really are atheists in foxholes. 🙂
You write:
“I’d also mention, when the debate about creationism in schools comes up, everyone who doesn’t believe in God begins flipping about how we’re attacking their beliefs and how it’s wrong and how we need to step back. But why is it right to have evolution/big bang/ etc taught to me or my kids as being the truth. What’s the difference? Because you’re shoving things down my throat. Or is it different because it’s your beliefs and not mine?”
The science being taught in schools today is factual…the truth is being taught, not non-factual beliefs. If you want your religion taught in your public school, just make it a different class. Religion does not belong in science classes. Religion is myth and belief/faith without factual backup…it is not a science. Like it or not science deals with real, testable, repeatable, peer reviewed facts and religion does not…it would be really foolish to school our children in myths and beliefs without evidence. America as a leading country would be in real trouble I think.
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1. As of 2010 the most prominent modern formulation of Dominion Theology is Christian Reconstructionism, founded by R. J. Rushdoony in the 1970s. Reconstructionists themselves use the word dominionism to refer to their belief that Christians alone should control civil government, conducting it according to Biblical law. Wikipedia
2. Bruce Barron writes: “ In the context of American evangelical efforts to penetrate and transform public life, the distinguishing mark of a dominionist is a commitment to defining and carrying out an approach to building society that is self-consciously defined as exclusively Christian, and dependent specifically on the work of Christians, rather than based on a broader consensus. Wikipedia
3. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religion_in_the_United_States