Are There Really “Peaceful Muslim’s”

Can Muslims ever really integrate into modern secular societies?

Once again the “Peaceful Muslims” are creating mayhem and death against Coptic Christians in Egypt.  The Muslims are a sect called Salafis…they are extremely ultraconservative and they are getting increasingly hostile towards Egypt’s Coptic community and attacking individuals and Coptic churches.  The armed forces and military leaders are not stopping the assaults or protecting the churches, so some of the Copts are fighting back creating a very volatile situation.

So, I just keep wondering when this “Peaceful Muslim” community is going to show itself.  I keep hearing about it, but it doesn’t ever seem to show itself.  Everywhere there are large Muslim communities there is unrest and criminal activities involving the Muslim’s  I posit that if there really was a large moderate Muslim group that they would put a quick stop to the terrorist activities that this “small minority” of extreme Muslims are engaged in.  Surely if the moderate Muslims are as plentiful as asserted they could control their evil brothers actions.

To answer the question at the top of the page…I seriously doubt it.

Should modern societies change to accommodate the Muslim religion…Never

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More Thoughts on Christian Morality

Today we humans do not consider it moral to wantonly kill people of other cultures, nor do we consider it moral to indiscriminately rape and savagely beat women and children, also we think slavery is an abomination that should be stopped at all cost.  This behavior however was condoned by the Old Testament God.  He purposely (if we are to believe the Hebrew goat herder writers) sent out Hebrew warriors to eliminate whole tribes and existing cultures of the land.

We do not do these things today because we have grown up as a people and culture.  Most good people would not do these things the early Hebrews did even if a god said too.  We have evolved a morality that far transcends the OT God. We properly value human life; women and children, and never want to see slavery in our lifetime.  (Well, I think the Republicans want to see “wage slaves”…you know, about $1.00 per hour…so they can “*Compete.” (*make more profit))

Anyway I think most humans have a prior notion of what is moral and what is not.  As Jerry Coyne says in his latest (4-22-11) blog post…“If you respond that God is good, and would never ask people to commit immoral acts, that too shows that you have a notion of morality that’s prior to God.”  My emphasis

Mans concept of morality has constantly changed, unlike the imaginary God, who says himself that he never changes.  In the 1950’s, in America, you could be sent to prison for a very long time if you practiced sodomy (this lingered on until the 80’s or 90’s in some cases), or even tried cunnilingus on your legally married WIFE. In New York recently a man was charged with Adultery of all things. The various churches & religions have tried to keep a long list of things as chargeable criminal offences both in the bedroom and everyday life, but we as a race and culture have finally started to grow up and realize that the Churches&Religions were/are pushing evil and poisonous worldviews.

One of the great attributes of the human mind is to be able to think logically and make good decisions; it’s too bad that so many Americans do not use that ability when they ponder religion.

Religion does NOT hold exclusive rights to the Morality card…we humans also have a very large share of it…always have.

Religion…its given people hope in a world torn apart by Religion–Jon Steward

Revolution anyone?
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Christians Are Whiners

The Christian complains about an increasingly secular world, but the Republican Party is controlled by right wing evangelical fundamentalists.  No atheists allowed

The Air Force academy in Colorado is run by right wing evangelical fundamentalists. You either bend to what they want or you are an outcast and stand to lose your appointment.

Evangelical Christians are at it again. The proselytizing only-through-Christ bunch have now taken up desecration of non-Christian religious sites: Not Jews this time but Wiccans. What the hell goes through the minds of these evangelicals who think they can tell other religions—at a military academy no less—what to believe? At their core, evangelicals who despise pluralism are infantile.”
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2010/02/03/christians-desecrate-wiccan-religious-site-at-air-force-academy/

The troops on the ground in Afghanistan and Iraq are of the same family group of fundamentalists and they threaten the lives of atheist troops.

In most of the South and especially throughout the “Bible Belt” you are mostly a social outcast if you don’t fall into the dominant Christian group of your town- i.e. Baptist, Pentecostal, etc.

In the Middle East and Much of Asia if you decline membership in the Islamic religion you are a social outcast to 98 percent or more of the population…if you’re Jewish you are dead-meat.

In China the Christian believing population is exploding so fast the government is scrambling to keep up and control it.

In Australia the churches have access to school classes and it is smiled upon by the government.

So I’m just wondering where the hell Christians are getting this bit about secularism is getting worse and worse.  Maybe in Europe, where it is predicted that nine countries will go atheist in the next few years, but I certainly don’t see it in the rest of the world.

Christians are just a bunch of whiners anyway. 🙂

None of today’s problems are caused by Atheists – just think about it.” Cobourg Atheists

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