Answer to…Science, Religion Definately Don’t Mix

Hi empy, Thank you for your reply.

I hope you don’t mind if I made a column for my answer to your reply :-} Better writing tools and more room here.

You wrote:
>>As a Bible believer I have absolutely no difficulty to believe that the Universe is millions of years old. After all. where does the Bible give a date to creation? The word ‘day’ in Genesis can not mean twenty four hour day as our Sun came into the scene on the forth day of creation.<<

Would you believe BILLIONS of years? The Universe is probably at least 14 billion years old, and the earth 4 billion or so. Some theists think that the Biblical creation “days” refer to periods of million of our years’

You wrote”
>>According to the Bible the univers came first, then only on the forth stage of creation our Sun and Moon come into existence(Gen.1:16). Then came plant life and later animals came into existence. My Bible says that man came to the scene only at the end. To me this is basically agreement between modern science and the ancient piece of writing which the Bible is.<<

Excerpt from KJV, Genesis 1: 9-19

9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
11 And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
12 And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
13 And the evening and the morning were the third day.
14 And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
15 And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
18 And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
19 And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.

Plants came before the Sun in the Bible, and in the real world, the sun came before earth. I’ve often wondered about that. If these “days” were millions of years, how did the plants survive until the sun was created? If the creation time were actual 24-hour days that would make more sense, at least the plants would make it. But then, that would make the Geological evidence WAY off.

You wrote:
>>The date of Adam and Eve can not be traced from genealogy in Genesis as the Bible often skips generations when it comes to genealogy , as Christ is called ‘son of David’, and the age of man on earth is surely much more than 6000 years. But it can not be millions of years as no trace of modern civilized man is there on the face of the earth going back to that time.<<

Allegorical reference to Jesus as the “son of David” The Bible lists in two places the genealogy that comes from David and leads to Jesus…They don’t agree on the lineage by the way.

Yes, there are traces of modern humans going back well over 100,000 years. In a cave on Mount Carmel, (Kebara cave) in the holy land, there are bones and artifacts of modern humans as well as Neanderthals. The human traces go back at least 50,000 years, the Neanderthal 100,000 years.

Many bones and artifacts have been found in Africa, and indeed over a lot of the earth, of intermediate humanoid forms that walked upright, made and used tools, and had social groups. They weren’t quite human, but they weren’t apes either. These date back at least 2 million years, although some argue for at least 3.5 million years.

IBM and the National Geographic Society teamed up a few years ago and started taking DNA samples from people around the word. Early findings are showing that ALL modern humans alive today can trace their ancestors to Africa, primarily Ethiopia and Namibia, and most all the lines go back about 200,000 years.

You wrote:
>>The Bible says that Cain built the first city (Gen.4:7). He was the second generation of modern civilized man. Tell us where is the earliest trace of human settlement on the face of the earth? <<

Well Cain was kicked out of Adam and Eve’s cave at a time when there were no other humans on the earth; according to the Bible. He married soon. Who did he marry? Some believe it was one of his many sisters. He went on to build a city…with whom? Maybe the Neanderthal’s, or most probably the other Homo-Sapiens roaming around then. There were human settlements everywhere 4000 years ago or 10,000 years ago, or longer.

There is tremendous information lying around on the earth to witness humans inhabiting the whole planet tens of thousands of years ago. Not a year goes by without at least one or two new archaeological finds pushing these dates back many years.

You wrote:
>>It may be of interest to you that the Bible does not concern itself withn pre-Adamic human race/s. The Bible only concerns itself with modern civilized man who occupies the present earth.<<

Yeah, that always bothered me. Was God denying his Neanderthal creations back then? They go back 250,00 years. There were plenty of them. They were spread all over Europe and the Mediterranean. They buried there dead, often with grave goods, flowers, personal artifacts, etc., so I’m thinking—they were thinking. That is they were reasoning, tool making, fire making, family grouping, humanoids …What’s up with God denying them?

Now if you are a conservative evangelical type person, you will of course deny that we can date old stuff, or they are lies. Nothing I can do about that, but if your books or ministers are telling you science lies…I think I would look a little further. Most conservative evangelical types I know, and I know at least 50, ignore evidence, because to read and cogitate on it would make themselves question their faith, and I think that is sad.

Anyway, I thank you kindly for taking your time to reply to me, and I wish you all the best.

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